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The appeal of Miyatake designs \u2013 The meaning of designs and \u201cpositivism\u201d<\/strong>\u5bab\u6b66\u4e00\u8d35\u8bbe\u8ba1\u7684\u9b45\u529b-\u8bbe\u8ba1\u7684\u610f\u4e49\u4e0e\u201c\u5b9e\u8bc1\u4e3b\u4e49\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

T: I know I\u2019ve said it before, but I am a huge fan of the unrivalled Destroid Monster. Last year, a photo of a young Steve Jobs was revealed where he had a toy of the Monster from back in the day in his office! Seeing foreign Macross fans select the Monster from a range of toys makes me think, \u201cthese guys aren\u2019t playing around!\u201d <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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M: It\u2019s one of the strangest of my designs, and probably the most unique.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Destroid Monster<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

T: You think so too?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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M: What do you think is its design motif?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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T:<\/strong> ..?<\/p>\n\n\n\n


M: There are two. The original idea for it is comes from the M50 \u201cOntos\u201d \u2013 an American anti-tank vehicle equipped with a recoilless 6-barrel cannon. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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M50 “Ontos”<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The other is that of a chick. It has a beak, and it has eyes, see? The torso is a little cut off, so the legs are enormous! The overall form is completely made out of that of a chick.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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 I thought if I made the smallest, weakest-looking thing into the most powerful thing, the incongruity of the whole would make an incredible mass of madness. After piling up all those logic gaps the design naturally ended up in this shape. This kind of methodology doesn\u2019t work for everything, though. I think you can only pull this off once. (Laughs)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Destroid Monster\u4e0e\u4eba\u7684\u6bd4\u4f8b<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n


T: In \u201cMacross Frontier\u201d, I added a mouth to the K\u00f6nig Monster design myself. At the time, I was wondering to myself why the Monster only had eyes and not a mouth, and there are moments when it looks sort of cute, so I didn\u2019t know how to interpret that.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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K\u00f6nig Monster VB-6<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n


M: Oh, so you noticed that! Thank you.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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T: So when it came to draw the box art for the \u201cHi-Metal R Destroid Monster\u201d, I ended up commenting a lot on how the eyes look when viewed from the front. They are completely facing the sides, so when looking from the front you can\u2019t see them and it loses something of the character. I thought that was the strangeness of the Monster\u2026 But now since you say that it is a chick\u2026 I should have added some slightly less-motivated eyes. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Hi-Metal R Destroid Monster<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

With the markings on the K\u00f6nig a while back, for some reason they added nose-art covering them, so I was very shocked. I was like, \u201cYou\u2019re putting it there?!\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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M: As a design, I was aiming for a land battleship. A giant ground weapon that would be so big as to be totally preposterous. Nobody would ever think to make a land artillery vehicle that has four 20cm cannons! If they are going to make such a ridiculous thing into a product, then I thought it should have a strong sense of character. So I came upon the idea of giving the weakest character to the strongest thing. The beak would be made out of the cockpit ladder for the pilots. On top of that, I thought that the sense of character would be strongest in the eyes, so I gave it really clumsy-looking eyes.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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T: <\/strong>But when the people of later generations draw the eyes of the Monster, they tend to draw powerful eyes, because that is what the name invokes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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M: That\u2019s just the natural progression, and everyone has their own impression.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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T: Oh, good. So I was correct.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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M: Also, if you place the pupils right in the center of the eye, they face outwards laterally, so the expressiveness is lost, that\u2019s why the eyes are looking a little closer to the front. Whether you are drawing a loli character [a cute little girl character] or a yuru-chara [the term for a cute mascot character], if the pupils are at the center, it looks weird. You should either make them close together, or make them look to one side. A girl\u2019s expression is all in the gaze, so you have to be aware of that.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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T: I finally understand. Thank you!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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